Windmill 2017: Mixed

Round 8 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Yellow Block 6 - 2 2.75 4.73 3.19
2 Deep Space 4 - 4 1.38 4.21 3.23
3 Terrible Monkeys 6 - 2 1.50 4.12 3.31
4 Friselis 6 - 2 1.88 4 2.56
5 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 5 - 3 1.75 2.69 0.94
6 Sexy Legs 5 - 3 0.62 2.67 2.04
7 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 3 - 5 0.62 2.56 3.43
8 Os zla 4 - 4 0.50 2.55 2.44
9 Wunderteam 6 - 2 2.25 2.44 0.19
10 Hammer Time 6 - 2 2.50 1.79 -0.02
11 Rusty Bikes 2 - 6 -0.75 1.41 2.55
12 Reading Ultimate 4 - 4 1.88 1.18 -0.69
13 Max Power 4 - 4 -0.62 1.17 2.09
14 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 5 - 3 0.50 0.11 -0.09
15 Bangarang! 2 - 6 -2.75 -0.29 2.85
16 Fresh Urbs 2 - 6 -2.38 -0.61 3.01
17 Rubik's Cube 3 - 5 -0.12 -0.67 -0.15
18 Hungary Mixed National Team 4 - 4 -0.88 -0.68 0.59
19 DUFF 3 - 5 -1.38 -1.48 0.44
20 Airborn 3 - 5 -0.88 -3.33 -2.45
21 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 3 - 5 -0.88 -4.02 -3.14
22 Ah Ouh Puc 5 - 3 -1.50 -4.57 -2.70
23 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 4 - 4 -2.38 -5.11 -1.97
24 Turk Kasi 1 - 7 -3.50 -5.32 -1.82
25 JR 5 - 3 1.38 -5.50 -6.88
26 Disc Maniac Delegates 5 - 3 -0.38 -5.51 -4.70
27 Oy Vey! 3 - 5 0.12 -5.57 -5.69
28 Spinister Motives 3 - 5 0.62 -5.77 -6.39
29 Geo's Disc Throwers 4 - 4 -1.75 -7.01 -5.26
30 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 1 - 7 -1.75 -8.08 -6.33
31 Charrúa 2 - 6 -4.00 -9.14 -5.14
32 4hands 0 - 8 -9.88 -15.11 -5.23
Round 7 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Yellow Block 5 - 2 2.71 4.70 2.90
2 Deep Space 4 - 3 1.71 4.65 3.25
3 Terrible Monkeys 5 - 2 1.57 4.24 3.19
4 Friselis 5 - 2 2.00 3.90 2.23
5 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 3 - 4 1.00 3.09 3.25
6 Os zla 4 - 3 1.00 2.68 1.99
7 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 5 - 2 2.14 2.46 0.32
8 Sexy Legs 4 - 3 0.43 2.29 1.86
9 Max Power 4 - 3 0.29 1.86 1.82
10 Wunderteam 5 - 2 1.57 1.73 0.16
11 Reading Ultimate 4 - 3 2.29 1.25 -1.03
12 Rusty Bikes 1 - 6 -1.00 1.18 2.49
13 Hammer Time 5 - 2 1.86 1.07 -0.27
14 Bangarang! 2 - 5 -2.14 0.36 2.82
15 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 4 - 3 0.29 -0.19 -0.23
16 Fresh Urbs 2 - 5 -2.43 -0.53 2.88
17 Hungary Mixed National Team 3 - 4 -1.29 -0.96 0.63
18 Rubik's Cube 2 - 5 -0.86 -1.04 0.11
19 DUFF 3 - 4 -1.29 -1.32 0.39
20 Airborn 3 - 4 -0.29 -3.05 -2.76
21 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 2 - 5 -1.71 -4.54 -2.82
22 Ah Ouh Puc 4 - 3 -1.86 -4.62 -2.48
23 Turk Kasi 1 - 6 -3.29 -4.81 -1.52
24 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 3 - 4 -3.00 -5.08 -1.49
25 JR 5 - 2 1.71 -5.43 -7.14
26 Spinister Motives 3 - 4 0.86 -5.54 -6.40
27 Disc Maniac Delegates 4 - 3 -0.57 -5.69 -4.78
28 Oy Vey! 2 - 5 -1.43 -5.80 -4.38
29 Geo's Disc Throwers 3 - 4 -2.43 -7.18 -4.75
30 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 1 - 6 -1.71 -8.17 -6.46
31 Charrúa 2 - 5 -4.14 -9.12 -4.97
32 4hands 0 - 7 -9.71 -14.92 -5.20
Round 6 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Friselis 5 - 1 3.17 4.68 1.71
2 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 3 - 3 1.67 3.80 2.84
3 Terrible Monkeys 4 - 2 1.33 3.51 2.48
4 Yellow Block 4 - 2 2.33 3.35 1.55
5 Deep Space 3 - 3 0.67 3.35 2.87
6 Max Power 4 - 2 1.67 2.61 1.10
7 Wunderteam 5 - 1 2.67 2.59 -0.08
8 Rusty Bikes 1 - 5 -0.67 1.92 2.78
9 Os zla 3 - 3 0.33 1.83 1.69
10 Sexy Legs 3 - 3 0.00 1.71 1.71
11 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 4 - 2 1.00 1.69 0.69
12 Bangarang! 2 - 4 -1.00 1.68 2.87
13 Fresh Urbs 2 - 4 -2.00 0.59 3.20
14 Hammer Time 4 - 2 1.33 0.50 -0.53
15 Reading Ultimate 3 - 3 1.50 0.04 -1.46
16 DUFF 3 - 3 -0.33 -0.06 0.53
17 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 3 - 3 0.17 -0.48 -0.49
18 Hungary Mixed National Team 3 - 3 -1.33 -0.77 0.74
19 Rubik's Cube 1 - 5 -2.00 -1.26 0.91
20 Turk Kasi 1 - 5 -2.83 -3.69 -0.86
21 Airborn 2 - 4 -1.33 -3.79 -2.46
22 Ah Ouh Puc 4 - 2 -1.17 -3.90 -2.56
23 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 3 - 3 -2.83 -4.27 -1.08
24 Oy Vey! 2 - 4 -0.50 -4.35 -3.85
25 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 1 - 5 -3.17 -5.26 -2.10
26 Disc Maniac Delegates 3 - 3 -0.83 -5.82 -4.80
27 JR 4 - 2 1.33 -6.31 -7.64
28 Spinister Motives 2 - 4 0.00 -6.42 -6.42
29 Geo's Disc Throwers 2 - 4 -3.17 -6.60 -3.43
30 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 1 - 5 -1.83 -9.03 -7.20
31 Charrúa 2 - 4 -3.83 -9.12 -5.29
32 4hands 0 - 6 -11.00 -16.56 -5.56
Round 5 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Poland Mixed National Team 5 - 0 6.40 10.30 3.90
2 Grut 4 - 1 3.40 8.76 5.36
3 Black Eagles 3 - 2 2.80 7.77 4.97
4 Shenanigans 5 - 0 3.80 5.94 2.14
5 Mainzelrenner 3 - 2 2.80 5.48 2.68
6 Burt Handmacklin FBI 4 - 1 2.20 5.08 2.88
7 Germany Mixed National Team 2 - 3 1.00 4.87 3.87
8 Hässliche Erdferkel 3 - 2 2.40 4.69 2.29
9 Friselis 4 - 1 2.80 4.35 1.55
10 Max Power 4 - 1 3.00 3.53 0.53
11 Yellow Block 4 - 1 3.00 3.37 0.37
12 Terrible Monkeys 3 - 2 1.40 3.11 1.71
13 Deep Space 2 - 3 0.00 2.77 2.77
14 Bangarang! 2 - 3 0.20 2.76 2.56
15 Os zla 3 - 2 1.20 2.68 1.48
16 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 2 - 3 0.60 2.64 2.04
17 Wunderteam 4 - 1 3.00 2.53 -0.47
18 Sexy Legs 3 - 2 0.60 2.09 1.49
19 Rusty Bikes 1 - 4 -0.60 2.03 2.63
20 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 3 - 2 0.60 1.24 0.64
21 Fresh Urbs 1 - 4 -2.80 0.44 3.24
22 DUFF 3 - 2 0.00 0.25 0.25
23 Hammer Time 3 - 2 0.80 0.13 -0.67
24 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 3 - 2 1.00 -0.01 -1.01
25 Rubik's Cube 1 - 4 -1.60 -0.46 1.14
26 Hungary Mixed National Team 2 - 3 -2.40 -1.13 1.27
27 Reading Ultimate 2 - 3 -0.40 -1.32 -0.92
28 Turk Kasi 1 - 4 -3.20 -3.50 -0.30
29 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 1 - 4 -1.60 -3.74 -2.14
30 Ah Ouh Puc 3 - 2 -1.60 -4.12 -2.52
31 Oy Vey! 2 - 3 -0.40 -4.27 -3.87
32 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 2 - 3 -3.60 -4.52 -0.92
33 Airborn 1 - 4 -3.00 -4.94 -1.94
34 Geo's Disc Throwers 2 - 3 -2.40 -5.56 -3.16
35 Disc Maniac Delegates 3 - 2 -0.80 -5.74 -4.94
36 JR 3 - 2 1.40 -6.48 -7.88
37 Spinister Motives 1 - 4 -2.20 -6.76 -4.56
38 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 1 - 4 -2.00 -8.49 -6.49
39 Charrúa 1 - 4 -4.80 -9.42 -4.62
40 4hands 0 - 5 -11.00 -16.35 -5.35
Round 4 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Grut 3 - 1 4.00 10.40 6.40
2 Black Eagles 3 - 1 5.75 9.95 4.20
3 Poland Mixed National Team 4 - 0 5.75 9.09 3.34
4 Mainzelrenner 3 - 1 3.75 5.31 1.56
5 Burt Handmacklin FBI 3 - 1 2.25 4.93 2.68
6 Germany Mixed National Team 2 - 2 1.75 4.36 2.61
7 Friselis 3 - 1 3.25 4.31 1.06
8 Terrible Monkeys 3 - 1 2.00 4.10 2.10
9 Shenanigans 4 - 0 2.50 3.94 1.44
10 Os zla 3 - 1 3.75 3.81 0.06
11 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 2 - 2 2.00 3.30 1.30
12 Hässliche Erdferkel 2 - 2 1.75 3.24 1.49
13 Yellow Block 3 - 1 3.00 3.12 0.12
14 Deep Space 2 - 2 0.75 3.01 2.26
15 Hammer Time 3 - 1 3.00 2.44 -0.56
16 Max Power 3 - 1 1.75 2.09 0.34
17 Wunderteam 3 - 1 3.50 2.03 -1.47
18 Bangarang! 2 - 2 0.50 1.84 1.34
19 Sexy Legs 2 - 2 -0.75 1.52 2.27
20 Fresh Urbs 1 - 3 -2.00 0.85 2.85
21 DUFF 3 - 1 0.50 0.63 0.13
22 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 2 - 2 0.25 0.19 -0.06
23 Rusty Bikes 0 - 4 -2.50 0.07 2.57
24 Hungary Mixed National Team 2 - 2 -1.25 -0.69 0.56
25 Reading Ultimate 2 - 2 0.50 -0.85 -1.35
26 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 2 - 2 0.25 -1.34 -1.59
27 Rubik's Cube 0 - 4 -4.00 -1.65 2.35
28 Turk Kasi 1 - 3 -2.00 -2.36 -0.36
29 Disc Maniac Delegates 2 - 2 -1.25 -4.48 -3.23
30 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 2 - 2 -4.25 -4.69 -0.44
31 Geo's Disc Throwers 2 - 2 -2.25 -4.97 -2.72
32 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 0 - 4 -2.75 -4.99 -2.24
33 Ah Ouh Puc 2 - 2 -2.25 -5.01 -2.76
34 Airborn 1 - 3 -3.50 -5.25 -1.75
35 Oy Vey! 1 - 3 -3.00 -5.73 -2.73
36 Charrúa 1 - 3 -3.50 -6.52 -3.02
37 Spinister Motives 0 - 4 -3.25 -6.83 -3.58
38 JR 2 - 2 -1.75 -7.40 -5.65
39 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 1 - 3 -2.00 -7.67 -5.67
40 4hands 0 - 4 -10.25 -14.14 -3.89
Round 3 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Grut 3 - 0 6.00 11.47 5.47
2 Black Eagles 2 - 1 6.33 10.18 3.85
3 Poland Mixed National Team 3 - 0 7.00 8.19 1.19
4 Burt Handmacklin FBI 3 - 0 4.33 6.16 1.83
5 Bangarang! 2 - 1 2.00 4.86 2.86
6 Shenanigans 3 - 0 2.00 4.71 2.71
7 Terrible Monkeys 2 - 1 2.00 4.49 2.49
8 Deep Space 2 - 1 1.67 4.34 2.67
9 Mainzelrenner 2 - 1 4.00 4.32 0.32
10 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 2 - 1 3.67 3.89 0.22
11 Germany Mixed National Team 2 - 1 2.67 3.59 0.93
12 Yellow Block 2 - 1 3.67 3.15 -0.52
13 Wunderteam 2 - 1 4.00 2.88 -1.12
14 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 2 - 1 1.00 2.57 1.57
15 Friselis 2 - 1 2.67 2.47 -0.20
16 Rusty Bikes 0 - 3 -1.67 2.38 4.05
17 Rubik's Cube 0 - 3 -2.67 1.87 4.53
18 Hammer Time 2 - 1 1.33 1.73 0.40
19 Sexy Legs 2 - 1 -0.33 1.60 1.93
20 Os zla 2 - 1 4.33 1.42 -2.92
21 Fresh Urbs 1 - 2 -1.33 1.42 2.76
22 Hässliche Erdferkel 1 - 2 1.00 0.57 -0.43
23 Hungary Mixed National Team 2 - 1 -0.33 0.47 0.80
24 Max Power 2 - 1 1.00 -0.31 -1.31
25 DUFF 2 - 1 -1.00 -1.34 -0.34
26 Turk Kasi 1 - 2 -1.00 -1.35 -0.35
27 Reading Ultimate 1 - 2 -2.33 -1.56 0.77
28 Airborn 1 - 2 -2.00 -3.62 -1.62
29 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 2 - 1 -2.67 -3.91 -1.24
30 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 1 - 2 -2.33 -4.56 -2.23
31 Disc Maniac Delegates 1 - 2 -2.67 -4.66 -2
32 Charrúa 1 - 2 -3.67 -5.61 -1.94
33 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 0 - 3 -3.00 -5.93 -2.93
34 Ah Ouh Puc 1 - 2 -3.67 -5.98 -2.31
35 Spinister Motives 0 - 3 -3.67 -6.18 -2.52
36 Geo's Disc Throwers 1 - 2 -3.67 -6.32 -2.65
37 Oy Vey! 0 - 3 -4.67 -6.63 -1.97
38 JR 2 - 1 -1.67 -7.81 -6.15
39 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 0 - 3 -6.67 -10.91 -4.24
40 4hands 0 - 3 -9.67 -12.04 -2.38
Round 2 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Black Eagles 2 - 0 10.00 9 -1
2 Grut 2 - 0 8.50 8.37 -0.12
3 Poland Mixed National Team 2 - 0 8.00 7.62 -0.38
4 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 2 - 0 8.00 7.25 -0.75
5 Mainzelrenner 1 - 1 5.50 7.13 1.63
6 Friselis 2 - 0 4.50 5.25 0.75
7 Yellow Block 2 - 0 6.50 4.88 -1.63
8 Burt Handmacklin FBI 2 - 0 5.50 4 -1.50
9 Os zla 1 - 1 4.50 3.75 -0.75
10 Germany Mixed National Team 1 - 1 3.00 3.37 0.37
11 Max Power 2 - 0 3.50 3.13 -0.38
12 Hässliche Erdferkel 1 - 1 2.50 2.88 0.38
13 Turk Kasi 1 - 1 1.50 2.25 0.75
14 Wunderteam 1 - 1 3.00 2.25 -0.75
15 Sexy Legs 2 - 0 1.00 1.75 0.75
16 Terrible Monkeys 1 - 1 1.50 1.63 0.12
17 Shenanigans 2 - 0 2.00 1.37 -0.63
18 Fresh Urbs 1 - 1 -1.00 0 1
19 Rubik's Cube 0 - 2 -1.50 0 1.50
20 Bangarang! 1 - 1 0.50 -0.13 -0.63
21 Deep Space 1 - 1 -1.00 -0.38 0.62
22 Reading Ultimate 1 - 1 0.00 -0.75 -0.75
23 Rusty Bikes 0 - 2 -1.50 -0.88 0.62
24 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 1 - 1 0.50 -1 -1.50
25 Disc Maniac Delegates 1 - 1 0.00 -1.62 -1.63
26 Hammer Time 1 - 1 -2.00 -1.87 0.12
27 DUFF 1 - 1 -3.00 -2 1
28 Geo's Disc Throwers 1 - 1 -1.50 -2.25 -0.75
29 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 1 - 1 -2.00 -2.38 -0.38
30 Hungary Mixed National Team 1 - 1 -4.50 -3 1.50
31 Airborn 0 - 2 -4.00 -3.25 0.75
32 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 0 - 2 -4.00 -3.63 0.38
33 Spinister Motives 0 - 2 -4.50 -3.75 0.75
34 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 1 - 1 -4.50 -4.13 0.37
35 JR 1 - 1 -5.00 -5.75 -0.75
36 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 0 - 2 -7.50 -6.75 0.75
37 Ah Ouh Puc 0 - 2 -6.50 -6.88 -0.38
38 Oy Vey! 0 - 2 -6.00 -7 -1
39 Charrúa 0 - 2 -8.00 -8.12 -0.12
40 4hands 0 - 2 -12.00 -10.38 1.63
Round 1 Standings
Rank Team Record Avg Goal Diff Swiss Points Avg of Opponents' Swiss Points
1 Mainzelrenner 1 - 0 12.00 6 -6
2 Yellow Block 1 - 0 12.00 6 -6
3 Germany Mixed National Team 1 - 0 11.00 5.50 -5.50
4 Poland Mixed National Team 1 - 0 11.00 5.50 -5.50
5 Turk Kasi 1 - 0 11.00 5.50 -5.50
6 Fizzy Lifting Drinks 1 - 0 8.00 4 -4
7 DUFF 1 - 0 7.00 3.50 -3.50
8 Black Eagles 1 - 0 7.00 3.50 -3.50
9 Hammer Time 1 - 0 7.00 3.50 -3.50
10 Grut 1 - 0 6.00 3 -3
11 Max Power 1 - 0 6.00 3 -3
12 Hässliche Erdferkel 1 - 0 6.00 3 -3
13 Friselis 1 - 0 3.00 1.50 -1.50
14 Geo's Disc Throwers 1 - 0 3.00 1.50 -1.50
15 Burt Handmacklin FBI 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
16 Hungary Mixed National Team 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
17 Reading Ultimate 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
18 Sexy Legs 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
19 Shenanigans 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
20 Deep Space 1 - 0 1.00 0.50 -0.50
21 Bangarang! 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
22 Rusty Bikes 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
23 Wunderteam 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
24 Airborn 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
25 Brown Chicken Brown Cow 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
26 Rubik's Cube 0 - 1 -1.00 -0.50 0.50
27 Mosquitos Ultimate Klosterneuburg 0 - 1 -3.00 -1.50 1.50
28 Os zla 0 - 1 -3.00 -1.50 1.50
29 Tribe Ultimate Frisbee Club 0 - 1 -6.00 -3 3
30 Quijotes+Dulcineas Ultimate Madrid 0 - 1 -6.00 -3 3
31 Terrible Monkeys 0 - 1 -6.00 -3 3
32 Charrúa 0 - 1 -7.00 -3.50 3.50
33 Fresh Urbs 0 - 1 -7.00 -3.50 3.50
34 Oy Vey! 0 - 1 -7.00 -3.50 3.50
35 Spinister Motives 0 - 1 -8.00 -4 4
36 JR 0 - 1 -11.00 -5.50 5.50
37 Frau Rauscher & the Bembelboys 0 - 1 -11.00 -5.50 5.50
38 Ah Ouh Puc 0 - 1 -11.00 -5.50 5.50
39 4hands 0 - 1 -12.00 -6 6
40 Disc Maniac Delegates 0 - 1 -12.00 -6 6
 

Swiss Format Explanation

Power Rankings

This swiss format tournament works by generating each round's matchups based on the results of all of the rounds up to that point. Power rankings assign a number to every team representing its strength (or power) with the intention that the point difference in a game equals the difference in strength of the participating teams. After each round, the computer calculates the team strengths that best fit the results of all games played so far.

For example, if Team Alice wins against Team Bob with a score of 15-10, this result can be explained by assigning a strength of +2.5 to Team Alice and a strength of -2.5 to Team Bob. (Of course, any two numbers with a difference of +5 would work, but let us try to keep the numbers as small as possible in absolute value.) If there are more teams with many games played among them, it becomes more difficult to assign strengths to the teams, but we use computer methods to optimize these numbers so that they fit the outcomes as well as possible.

A possible interpretation of these numbers is the following: If Team Charlie with strength +3 plays Team Eve with strength -2, Team Charlie is expected to win with a point difference of +5. In principle, Team Charlie will improve its strength by winning with an even higher margin, Team Eve will improve its strength by losing with less than 5 points difference. In practice, the change in strength after a round also depends on the performance of the previous opponents of Team Charlie and Team Eve (as well as the opponents of the opponents etc.).

Teams will be ranked after each round according to their strength. For teams with the same strength, the tiebreakers are: most wins, fewest losses, and opponent strength (in that order). Average opponent swiss points are calculated by summing the total swiss points scored by all of the previous opponents of a team, and dividing by the number of played games.

 

How Matchups Within Groups are Generated (Adjacent Pairing)

For this tournament, the system to pair teams for a given round is called Adjacent Pairing. Teams are first ranked based on their number of swiss points and then adjacent teams are matched up. If there are 8 teams ranked 1 through 8, 1 would play 2, 3 would play 4, 5 would play 6, and 7 would play 8.

If any byes are given out, the lowest ranked team will have the bye and will be awarded a certain number of points for that round, determined by the tournament director.

The schedule is adjusted so that no two teams play each other more than once and no team will have more than one bye.